was born "to quarter", a project promoted by a group of "active citizens" that proposes and promotes a new way of understanding politics in Quarto d'Altino, from the drafting part of a program ...
"Together, we can ..." With this slogan
Saturday Night - February 26 - during a dinner with music Altino, we presented for fourth , a movement born from the meeting and the reflections of a group of citizens from associations and committees active in the territory altinate to propose and promote a new way of thinking and doing politics in Local , released by the logic of party and interest of a few.
The goal of this newborn group of "active citizens" - constituted not only by myself, by Luigino Varin, Catherine Pagnin, Luca Giacomini, Giancarlo Gazzola, Alessandra De Piccoli, Marco and Fabio Bergamin Brentel - is to throw the basis for the creation of a separate civil list and a shared program to be presented to administrative of 2011, and to do so through a participatory planning workshop , a series meetings during which, by comparison, and the contribution of all, develop an idea of \u200b\u200bdevelopment of the country shared as much as possible, working on critical the opportunities and constraints of both fractions of the country as a whole.
Here are the dates of the meetings, all afternoon, from 15.30 onwards:
for Portegrandi and The Trezze - Saturday, March 5 at the civic center Portegrandi
Le Crete and Quarto d'Altino "Beyond the Train" - Saturday, March 19 at the former elementary school in Le Crete
for Altino and Trepalade - Saturday, April 4 at the civic center for
Altino Quarto d'Altino and San Michele Vecchio - Saturday, April 19 at the center of Quarto d'Altino
The starting point of our reflections is that for his raise social, economic and cultural Quarto d'Altino needs to find a new vocation and perhaps a renewed identity .
In this play a central role in the spread on the territory assets: the human and social (people, families, groups, parishes, community groups), the historical, natural and cultural (Altino, Sile, the lagoon, the Conca), and the socio-economic (Traders, tourism operators, small businesses).
It is around these issues we would like to open a constructive dialogue with citizens, representing a moment of confrontation , of mutual influence and finally sharing.
is already active www.perquarto.it website through which you can sign the Manifesto citizens "for fourth , keep you updated on current initiatives and" best practices "which inspired, but above all - soon - make your contribution to the program participated.
Some details on the section of altinate TAV proceeds from the preliminary draft RFI, pending two public meetings on the subject organized by the municipality.
In the coming days it seems you do not speak anything but TAV in Quarto d'Altino. Usually we drop two public meetings sponsored by ( Monday 24 and Monday, January 31 , at 20 took center) in view of the city council on the issue, to be held within the first half of February.
Here's the first flyer.
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then take advantage of this communication the last minute to post some clarification to my previous post OpportuniTAV , and especially in the stretch viaduct which - according to the preliminary draft presented in detail by Region RFI - should be of interest to our country, whether you opt for the track "Low" (or "Coastal"), whether it chooses the path "high" (or "Highway").
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The affected area is the stretch of the campaign (one of the few still intact, also due to archaeological constraints and natural-landscape) that is between zero and Sile, more or less midway between downtown and Fourth-Trepalade Altino.
analyze them in detail. In
red the route of high-speed line, which "overrides" this stretch of the campaign with a 2.3 km long viaduct that near overpass of the river Sile is expected to reach a height of 5 meters , calculated between the base of the viaduct and the maximum level of the bank. If we consider all that is expected to be placed above the base of the viaduct, imagine how high they reach the overhead power pylons ... The viaduct will be based on groups of reinforced concrete pillars (diameter of 1.2 meters) with spans of 25 or 40 meters , as needed. The
colored areas adjacent to the line at the end of Via Colombera are respectively a ' material storage area (blue - 19,000 square meters), a site operating (Purple - 40,500 sqm), a shipyard based (orange - 13,300 square meters, for a total of over 7 acres of countryside ). Of particular importance are the two sites, because they are the only ones of this type that the project between Venice and Musile di Piave. Specifically, the operating site is here because the viaduct is one of the Zero-Sile "important works of art" the whole way. I leave you to imagine the heavy traffic that pours in between the output of the loop, the new round of Avenue of the Resistance, and via Colombera Via Claudia Augusta during the 2500 days (about 7 years) provided for realization.
The green line represents the new link road (already provided by PRG and recently drawn with the typical fluorescent poles) that will connect the new roundabout path of resistance to the provincial-Portegrandi Fourth, at the former ICM . As you note, the two paths intersect a few meters from Claudia Augusta, that the shoulder strap "overrides" in turn with an overpass, with a visual effect from the motorway ...
Finally, the photo included in the map shows, as would be new view of Claudia Augusta (which, for those who have forgotten, follows the path one of the most important Roman consular roads of northern Italy) with his back to looking at the Altino and the downtown district. a "thicket" of reinforced concrete interrupted by a real wood (as long as it remains something, because that falls in the middle of the buffer zone) of the good properties of P. Calza, recognized by the Region and the Province as an area of \u200b\u200brestocking of game, and then protected area of \u200b\u200bnatural interest.
addition, although the "problem" (if we want to call it) of the constraints on the site of archaeological Claudia Augusta have been "solved" with the viaduct (!), The pillars (and there are many ...) will also be planted on the ground, and the area between Via and Via Claudia Augusta Colombera is shown in the project at risk Archaeological hour average, now a senior.
view of all this (but not only, because there is no question by analyzing the financial whole project), I can only conclude again invited to read the article There are alternatives to TAV? Ferrovieanordest published on the site, of which I quote the beginning:
As discussed in every area to which is the best way to pass the High Speed \u200b\u200bTrain in the Veneto East (alongside coastal or A4) seems that few are asking a question more upstream, the majority assuming that the TAV itself is useful and indispensable. For complete information seems correct at least investigate a radical alternative to the construction of a new line.
Among the questions "uncomfortable" this is a really essential for the development of the country? And most of all, once completed, can be really exploited to improve the transport of passengers and goods across the Northeast? As we have seen in previous investigations, the new line like the AV undertaken to date is not intended to be traveled by freight trains, we are not able to predict exactly the passenger traffic in 2015, but considering the current state of flow-Venezia-Trieste Slovenia can easily assume that only a few trains passing through each day (there was talk of three pairs, six races in all!). [READ MORE ]
Here's how the TAV could officially impact at Quarto d'Altino: two concrete viaducts 2 km from the one ...
Oh well ', in short: the train is always the train, eh! (Renato Pozzetto)
"On the morning of December 22, 2010 Italian Rail Network has delivered to the regional offices of the Directorate Infrastructure cards of the preliminary draft of the High-speed train from Venice to Trieste." So begins the post published on the pages of the site in the northeast Railways, the permanent observatory (and independent nothing to do with Trenitalia, RFI, trade unions ...) on the mobility of the macro-region railway in which we live.
This means that we can finally know what will be - to be here in twenty years - the likely fate of our country , since - despite the assurances of local politics - the infamous "track down" developed by RFI on clear direction of the Veneto Region (Proceedings of the Regional No 1816 of 13 June 2006 and No 1083 of April 17, 2007 ) cross in the middle of our common between the capital and Trepalade - crosses zero, the Sile and the Via Claudia Augusta - and I will touch again on the border with Musile - crossing the Fossetta Triestina and then travels parallel to the "Jesolo" - as you can see from the map below.
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But not all. In both cases the degree of landscape impact will be the maximum that can occur in open country, because, having to cross from one side two rivers (Sile and Zero) and an archaeological site (the Claudia Augusta), on the other channel (the Fossetta) and road (Triestina), the plan is that these two points, the line runs over two viaducts to between 2.6 and 2 km .
In blue the route of the TAV, in red the two viaducts Altino Click to enlarge
The reason I will explain the words of Michele Pinardi, specializes in surveying and cartographic processing:
The new lines will not have the same gradients present on existing railway tracks. To overcome a river or a highway not just more of a simple bridge that connects the two sides, the slope would be too dangerous for the new trains. With the rise in the share of TAV is in a binary gradualissima otherwise at certain speeds there is a risk of derailment of wagons.
Here are some photos taken along the viaduct over the river Panaro in European high-speed Bologna-Verona "to understand this and try to make visible the full extent of this work" - concludes Pinardi.
Here are the most eloquent. The other can be found on its website . Hard to think provided that the bridges along the Venice-Trieste will be different from these ...
I spoke today with the Deputy Mayor Councillor Chisso it is the only interested in this because beyond that has been published there is nothing in the papers. [...] Chisso told me that within about ten days brings us together. Quarto d'Altino tells me I do not know if you summon because you're not interested, seems to go beyond , I said, though the path through the Quarto d'Altino you. [source: Full Transcript of session advice November 8, 2010]
In those same days the commissioner Chisso was responding to a reporter who asked him what he thought of ' Proposed route released by railways in the Northeast ( rebuilt on official statements of the Deputy Minister Castelli) more or less in these words: "is nothing but a sign on a piece of paper" . Compare for yourself the possibility of railways in the Northeast with the preliminary draft RFI: are identical.
will not go into the merits of possible alternative routes or on ' usefulness and economic viability of a hypothetical future high-speed line. They've already done with an objective eye and a wealth of detail, the editors of the said railway in the northeast, which Insights section of their site have written a truly enlightening (which I recommend you read) not only in the motorways, an alternative to the "low" , but also about the absolute alternative to TAV , making further clarity on two key issues: the meaning of two concepts of high speed and high capacity , and the possibility / convenience of the run freight trains on a line for high-speed .
one on which I wish to focus attention is the question total confusion that has arisen since popped up on the track casus belli "low", about mid-October. A chaos that politics - and above all Regional Councillor transport - in no way tried to contain and that, indeed, has helped fuel continuing to plead ignorance of the RFI was planning. Just take a look at the quantity of articles published in local newspapers last month and a half and those who are coming out these days, and contradictions that will be read.
It seems now that everything revolves around the so-called "stop the beaches" , notably absent of the preliminary draft. Now, aside from the addresses of the Region in 2006 and 2007 not included (or at least not explicitly), possible that in the meantime no one has given a blind eye to the design of RFI , given the media chaos that was developing? Or maybe that would stop further compromise the quality of the project in the eyes of the European Commission? (And if the project does not pass the Schei ... no shore.)
Why do we have to say that already as it appears now, the route could turn up their nose to the committee, because of many curves, known high-speed enemy. They knew the Romans when they built the Claudia Augusta, designers knew the Austro-Hungarian empire in the mid nineteenth century have designed the rail from Trieste to Venice, and so did those who, after World War II, he designed and built the motorway Venice-Trieste .
Some will say: Yes, they did not have to struggle with cramped the so-called "city read" that we find ourselves now, nor with the recent establishment environmentalist of "land conservation" . But Italy (and especially the Po Valley) is not Spain, France, Germany, where between one city and one can also run dozens of miles of nothing, and what little land is left intact will well in the coming decades we keep him close ...
Not to leave again this time with a bitter taste, and following on the title of the post ("OpportuniTAV", the high-speed line as one of the development opportunities that our area - which one? the Northeast, the Veneto and Quarto d'Altino? - should not be missing, at least according to the assertions of those who govern us, or as he said during a recent public meeting the former mayor of Fourth Francis Borgia), especially early epigraphy, I invite you to see this scene from a cult films of the 80s, I was reminded while reading a comment of his friend Luke to the claims of those who say that the track "Low" with the elusive 'stop the beaches "is enhanced and Caorle Eraclea: "What, are also a station there? or tourists will be in droves to see the train pass? .
